on the organization of the debate “Equality: culture, practice or illusion?”. “Overcoming of European Integration Stereotypes through Communication”. Public debates series held by the news agency IPN in its conference room with the support of the German Foundation “Hanns Seidel”
Held on 14 September 2020, Debate No.9 brought together: the head of the Council for Preventing and Eliminating Discrimination and Ensuring Equality Ian Feldman; director of the Expert Center “Mera” (“Measure”) of Nizhniy Novgorod, Russia, Sergey Borisov; jurist Ștefan Gligor, the project’s standing expert.
“We can create better legislation and implement better practices for solving the problem, but when society is preoccupied with survival and is suppressed by poverty, it will be impossible to ensure equality as the people have different goals and a different system of priorities,” said jurist Ștefan Gligor, the expert of IPN’s project “Overcoming of European Integration Stereotypes by Communication”.
“After the collapse of the USSR, we not only found ourselves in a new epoch, but could not understand in what society we live and what direction we should follow. Poverty, mass migration came with the next wave and all the questions related to equality sank in the common feeling of injustice and confusion,” stated the expert.
According to him, Moldova was unable to overcome this stage swiftly because it became a rope in the geopolitical tug of war. “We didn’t have politicians, leaders who would have realized that we should first of all build the economy and then deal with concrete things based on welfare. I mean a satisfied society is more open to a civilized dialogue and it does not look for persons to blame to compensate for the dissatisfaction,” noted Stefan Gligor, expressing his conviction that we are still looking for those who are to blame for our poverty and for injustice and also for saviors.
“Our citizens didn’t understand that their salivation is in their own reflection in the mirror, that they are the unit of measurement in the new society and state building model. Work must be done on oneself so that we develop as personalities and the state will develop after us. Meanwhile, many of our social classes got stuck in the past and sink in the feeling of pity for oneself. The inequality widens as a result,” he stated.
Stefan Gligor formulated the reason for which such a situation can persist in Moldova for many years to come. “Against the uncertainty in tomorrow and the unfavorable situation of the economy, almost 100,000 children are educated not by the parents, but by relatives or by one of the parents. Their mothers and fathers are migrant workers and this situation will continue for another one-two generations that will not get enough love, compassion, knowledge and simply ice-cream or games. Consequently, they will also suffer from complexes and will try to get what they didn’t get enough at the expense of others. A new wave of inequity will appear as a result.
“We must distance ourselves from the poverty line and then many good laws will start to work, the people will enjoy greater freedom and will become more attentive to those who have less.”
Russian sociologist and philosopher Sergey Borisov, director of the Expert Center “Mera” (“Measure”) of Nizhniy Novgorod, reminded that the progress of a society consists in the growing complexity of its structure. “There is labor division and division of social functions. The more difficult the structure is, the more varied society is and the greater is its potential to develop as there are more variants,” stated the expert, noting there is also the other side.
“The more varied are the difficulties between us, the easier they can turn into discrimination. But the excessive fight for equality, as they taught is in the 20th century, can also generate unfavorable results, in particular totalitarian regimes,” said Sergey Borisov.
“The people are unequal from the start, by their capacities, and it is dangerous to try to equalize them. This way, we can even omit a new Mozart. But we can also, as the great thinkers of the Renaissance formulated, really ensure two things – equality of juridical rights and equality of possibilities, life chances. Society should be built so as to avoid two dangers. On the one hand, we should not allow inequality as injustice. On the other hand, we should not limit the equality of possibilities because we can fight so for the rights of the minorities that no minorities will remain.”
As the head of the Council for Preventing and Eliminating Discrimination and Ensuring Equality Ian Feldman said, the number of complains to the Council, which was founded as part of the implementation of the Association Agreement with the EU, rises aurally. “We started from 140 complaints a year, but now the figure stands at 300.”
Ian Feldman considers the creation of the Council in a move to ensure equality, as the Moldovan side decided when looking for a solution, is an accomplishment. “In our case, there was constituted a body that not only fixes the problem, but also formulates recommendations and solutions that must be mandatorily implemented. We set the deadlines and can impose fines for discrimination and also for the non-implementing of the Council’s decisions,” he stated.
He noted that among the results of this parajudicary body is the change of the perception of the phenomenon of inequality. “We, regularly, once in two-three years, carry out large studies to measure the social distance in relation to particular groups of people. I want to note that this distance in 2018 became significantly shorter compared with 2015,” noted Ian Feldman.
The Agency published 7 news stories on the debate (see the English version of www.ipn.md): on 14.09.20, “Equality: culture, practice or illusion?” IPN debate - https://www.ipn.md/en/equality-culture-practice-or-illusion-ipn-debate-8004_1076135.html;Ian Feldman: We cannot speak only about equality as we must also fight for rights - https://www.ipn.md/en/ian-feldman-we-cannot-speak-only-about-equality-as-we-8004_1076139.html; Russian sociologist: In post-Soviet countries, they perceive justice as Sharikov did - https://www.ipn.md/en/russian-sociologist-in-post-soviet-countries-they-perceive-justice-as-8004_1076143.html; Ștefan Gligor: State affected by corruption cannot ensure equality – https://www.ipn.md/en/stefan-gligor-state-affected-by-corruption-cannot-ensure-equality-8004_1076144.html; on 15.09.20 - Ștefan Gligor: Politicians in Moldova are interested in conserving inequality - https://www.ipn.md/en/stefan-gligor-politicians-in-moldova-are-interested-in-conserving-inequality-8004_1076154.html; Russian sociologist: Migration further worsens problem of inequality in Moldova - https://www.ipn.md/en/russian-sociologist-migration-further-worsens-problem-of-inequality-in-moldova-8004_1076148.html; Ian Feldman: Equality-related decisions are most often challenged by state institutions - https://www.ipn.md/en/ian-feldman-equality-related-decisions-are-most-often-challenged-by-8004_1076153.html.
IPN promoted the debate before and after the event, in particular the ensuing news stories, using all the available channels, including social networks. Confirmatory materials of deliverables, as well as a media coverage dossier are attached.
Valeriu Vasilica, director of IPN